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Winner: Time Stand Still

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Time Stand Still193219541992201820913222132352125670326
Force Ten81081081283689998151132714056196
Prime Mover58058058058260363669-69000
Turn the Page30131031132436642-4200000
Open Secrets27128028230535-350000000
Lock and Key27027027229-29000000000
Second Nature80819-900000000000
Tai Shan606-60000000000000
High Water4-4000000000000000
Inactive Ballots0.000000.000001.000001.000001.000001.000001.000001.000002.00000
  • Use of mathematical tie-breaker formula - weights voter preferences from before rounds are calculated
  • Use of random tie-breaker – because mathematical tie-breaker formula resulted in a tie
1st ch2nd ch3rd ch4th ch5th ch6th ch7th ch8th ch9th ch10th ch
Force Ten81113112695629261469
Time Stand Still19310570533721815162
Open Secrets27213541427188796731
Second Nature8222946666682916724
Prime Mover58645757577357402417
Lock and Key27395553827373532422
Turn the Page30435885607157543314
Tai Shan6413111320243268308
High Water41512213634519317656
Total Choices524518515510504499498498497492

RCV123 on-line system handles ties among candidates facing elimination differently than any official RCV systems. (Other than tie-breaking, we use the WIGM RCV system that is the standard counting method.)

We vary from official RCV for tie-breaking because in elections with thousands or hundreds of thousands of voters, ties are very unlikely. But our mission is to make RCV helpful to anyone who wants to make a group decision – including smaller groups with perhaps only 25 voters in a classroom or small civic organization. In a small group election with five candidates and 20 voters, for example, there are very likely to be several ties as the rounds progress.

Official RCV uses random chance to settle any ties. We believe it would be unsatisfying for small voting groups to find that much of the outcome was determined by random chance.

So we developed a unique tie-breaking system that calculates a single number for each candidate based on their vote totals and the choice column they are in. The candidate with the highest tie-breaking number wins that tie. If that tie-breaker number winds up in a tie, then RCV123 resorts to random chance.

Each first-choice vote is worth 100, and each subsequent choice is worth 2/3 (.67) of the previous choice on a ballot. Then all the votes and weighting for each candidate in each column are totaled to determine an overall tie-breaker number. So in our method, for example, three 2nd place votes are worth very slightly more than two 1st place votes. But it would take 37 10th place votes to have the same weight as one 1st place vote.

Our tie-breaking method looks at all choice data from every ballot. This is different from the rounds of counting - which only looks at the data from each round as it is calculated. For example, in actual rounds of counting, a candidate with zero first-choice votes will be eliminated right away, and any 2nd or 5th or 10th place votes they may have does not matter at all.

If two candidates facing elimination have a tie, and have identical tie-breaker numbers, then RCV123 will use random chance to decide. We create a grid of randomly decided, head-to-head tie-breaking match-ups for each combination of candidates. That grid can be found on the results page of any election.

The use of the mathematical tie breakers will be noted in election results with a blue rectangle over vote totals in that round for the candidates involved. The use of the last-resort, random tie breaker will be noted by the color green.

We believe our tie-breaking system is a good compromise between not weighting the choice column of votes at all, and excessively weighting one choice column vs. another immediately adjacent.

This table shows the primary tie-breaker calculation. It starts with the raw ballot data from before any rounds were tabulated.

The total of all voter 1st choices for a candidate is multiplied by 100. Each successive set of total choices for a candidate ( 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc.) is assigned 2/3 (.67) of the weight given to the previous column of choice totals. Then all the columns are added together to arrive at a tie-breaker number for each candidate.

1st chx 1.002nd chx 0.673rd chx 0.454th chx 0.305th chx 0.206th chx 0.147th chx 0.098th chx 0.069th chx 0.0410th chx 0.03Candidate Tie-Breaker Number
Force Ten8181.0011375.7111250.286920.755611.28293.92262.35140.8560.2490.24246.63
Time Stand Still193193.0010570.357031.425315.94377.46212.8380.72150.91160.6520.05323.34
Open Secrets2727.002114.073515.714112.33428.46719.59887.96794.79672.72310.84103.47
Second Nature88.002214.742913.024613.836613.30668.91827.42915.51672.72240.6588.11
Prime Mover5858.006442.885725.595717.145711.49739.86575.16402.42240.97170.46173.97
Lock and Key2727.003926.135524.695315.948216.52739.86736.60533.21240.97220.60131.53
Turn the Page3030.004328.815826.048525.566012.09719.59575.16543.27331.34140.38142.23
Tai Shan66.0042.68135.84113.31132.62202.70242.17321.94682.763088.3838.39
High Water44.001510.05125.39216.32367.25344.59514.61935.641767.15561.5256.51
Total Choices524518515510504499498498497492

In the event our primary tie-breaking system can’t settle a tie among candidates with exactly the same number of votes and set of choice preferences, we have the computer generate a random list of all candidates. That order determines who will win any ties of the primary system.

Force Ten4
Time Stand Still1
Open Secrets7
Second Nature9
Prime Mover6
Lock and Key2
Turn the Page3
Tai Shan10
High Water8